There's nothing funny about the subject but the parody is very well written so I'm voting 515. I don't think it will really come to either stars or moons on people this time around, too much historical no-no-no context on that idea, but something in a similar vein is brewing in the outrageismed parts of the European left, they want to label Israeli food products that are grown on occupied land with "information/warning" stickers or something like that. I can easily see that getting out of hand down the road.

I'll try not to lecture, but enemies of the Reich were far more diverse than just Jews for slaughter. 12 million died in camps and more under slave labor of the SS. They included Jews, Roma, Slavs of all types, homosexuals, the mentally ill and retarded, those with serious birth defects, and all opponents of the Reich. There was a plan to liquidate all serious criminals, but they were formed into the infamous anti-partisan group DB that even the SS and Einsatzkommandos hated! Btw, Peter, world refs and Israel list Sweden as the most Anti-semitic nation in Europe!!! How did that come about?!?

Politics in Sweden has never been such an effing mess that it is right now! I'd say it's mostly that our red-green (and especially the greens) government has made some horrible choices in bedfellows and political narrative as to maximize the islamic vote turn-out since we've been accepting middle east refugees since long before the current crisis, islamists now by far outnumber the small communities of jews in Sweden. It only takes a few extremists of course, hence there has been incidents with attacks on jews that mainstrem media doesn't really dare too touch since it not politically correct on either side of the normal polical red-blue divide - they both overlook things that don't fit their joint official narratives as not to strain their own collaboration against the nationalists (now the biggest party according to autumn polls) that want to straight up close the borders. It's gotten so weird that the pro-national semi-browns with nazi-tangent roots might now narratively actually be the most jew-friendly party in Sweden, but of course there's an element of the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend to that since they're the almost the only ones openly against the current influx of ten thousand islamic refugees per week. If I was a jew living in one of the bigger cities of Sweden I'd get outta there unless official imigration policy changes fast, like within the next months. Ten thousand per week is five hundred thousand a year in country of less than ten millions, do the math.

J for Jew: By the end of the 1930s, there was a growing stream of Jewish refugees from Germany to other European countries. Few countries wanted them, but how might one determine who were Jews and who were not? In 1938, Sweden and Switzerland approached Germany with the proposal to furnish Jews with special passports, and on October 5 that year the Germans complied. All passports belonging to Jews were declared null and void, and Jews who wanted to travel had to get new ones -- stamped with a big red "J" on the first page.

I've seen a few examples of the Reisepass with the red "J". Some dated as late as 1942. They were trying to get to Latin America or Caribbean. One of the candidates is proposing a plan to let immigrants stay in the US, but without becoming citizens. Really bad idea. When you accept the concept of second-class citizenship, one has to have a constant system of surveillance and ID checks to sort out who is who. I really don't think that most illegals come here with an overwhelming desire to vote. Though they can be registered and told how. It seems the solution to illegal immigration that is de facto underway is to destroy the economy so that even impoverished Mexicans won't want to come here, or will go home where the opportunities are better south of the border.

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well Jiminy Cricket!

Reductio ad Hitlerium ploy. Jews victims of genocide. Muslims want to commit genocide on Jews. Slight difference!!!

A Muslim database? Please, it already exists within the 20-something Intel databases on terror AND domestic spying!!! No need to register. Also, above comment is factually wrong. Jews were considered enemies of the state as many were aligned with Communism pre-Hitler. Although victims of genocide, they were no different regarding registration than many so-called subversives tracked by nations of that time period. Britain and the US also kept files on Jews immigrating to their nations and established cruel controls that refused them entry. This Antisemitism continued postwar, especially with the British regarding Jewish return to Palestine although guaranteed by the Balfour Declaration granted by the British in WW1!!!

Rob, are you seriously saying that you think every Muslim is on an internal terror/domestic spying watch list? And your comment re Jews and communism is either antisemitic itself or is shows antisemitism by the Nazis: sure, many Jews were communist but then so were many Aryans. It didn't make the Nazis declare all Aryans enemies of the state. It's exactly the same logic as says that all Muslims are suspect (or all Japanese post Pearl Harbour).. treating a whole population as a threat because of the actions of a handful of extremists is ethically wrong, a huge waste of resources and frequently counterproductive. Just because people are so incapable of evaluating risk that they're scared of all the wrong things.

Phil, please don't use my comments out of context. I did not say nor imply that all Muslims be registered. The US Intel agencies and other agencies have overlapping information on Muslims as well as files from domestic spying using advanced technologies to profile just about everyone in a variety of ways. It is not necessary to go further. Regarding the Jews in the Germany (and in other nations of that time period), registration lists were common, not solely based on Aryan prejudices. Large numbers of Jews were open Communists and enemies of Weimar before Hitler was even Chancellor. They were considered subversive elements. Others were Jewish criminals and political activists against the NSDAP. I noticed you avoided the comments about Britain's blatant Antisemitic attitude towards Jewish immigration before and after WW2. Even during the war, the US and Britain refused to bomb the rail lines to the death camps or Mount commando raids. The Soviets and Poles certainly didn't care either. In France, surviving Jews were often greeted by hostile neighbors who had taken their homes and businesses. Both France and Britain refused the Exodus '47 ship. Britain boarded the ship just short of Palestine, assaulted the passengers, killed the captain of the ship, and locked them in the lower levels of the ship before sending them to camps on Cyprus and then onward back to Germany where the Germans openly mocked them.

"Bolshevism among the Jews is nothing new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing." ~ Winston Churchill, 1920s

Btw Phil, since at least 2011 in the US "Mosque crawling" and other Muslim surveillance has been going on involving NYPD Intel Div, CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA, and others. Muslims have tried to sue the FBI but AG invoked States Secrets.

I don't think I was taking your comments out of context: the context is a comparison between Hitler labelling all Jews and Trump making the same sort of proposals for Muslims. Into that you say a database of Muslims already exists - how is this taking what you've said out of context?

And repeating that some Jews were Bolsheviks doesn't help your cause: they weren't *all* by any means, just as not all Muslims are terrorists. It's pretty easy to understand. I'm a bit concerned by your inability to understand a simple point.

As for not commenting on Britain's antisemitic attitude, I didn't because I don't disagree: if I had been anything to do with the government of the day, I'd be deeply ashamed. It is one of many examples in British (well, mainly English) history where we really weren't the good guys. But it's also completely irrelevant (which is a touch ironic seeing as you were complaining inacccurately about my taking your comment out of context)

Phil, then I guess you cannot read. I'm not advocating Trump's answer to a media Q? (btw, the media are the ones that manipulated that question as he didn't propose it). Since 2011, Muslims in the US have already BEEN under surveillance by many agencies and mosques infiltrated to gain actionable intelligence. This is a fact. Regarding Nazism, Hitler and Europe at large blamed Communism on the Jews as interlinked. Hitler wrote about it in Mein Kampf and Weimar was already dealing with it BEFORE Hitler. It was an ideological- racial matter held by most Europeans of all nationalities. Not political-racial as you suggest simply because of the Third Reich's Aryan nonsense which even the Waffen SS dumped by recruiting non-Aryans from 1943-45. These included Muslims!!! Antisemitic attitudes were prevalent. Btw, all Commie Germans were either put into concentration camps and/or were shot. They were on lists as well. So what simple point am I missing? Bolshevism was believed by the West at large as Jewish in origin stretching back to the early 1920s. And as per your British excuse-making, Britain armed Communist guerillas during WW2 to fight the Nazis and then as the war was ending turned them over to the Nazis for liquidation via Intel leaks on purpose. You'd have to be pretty naive to not associate Jews with Communism when historically this was the prevailing consensus in Europe and beyond for the time period. And concerning Hitler's personal Antisemitic attitude attributed to his youth, that is disproven by his military unit in WW1. Hitler blamed Germany's "stab in the back" Armistice back home on the Jews. Another well-held belief in Germany prior to Hitler coming to power in 1933. Read "Mein Kampf" and US translated "Second Book." Also, the media is under fire here for the entire Muslim database Trump question and response. In fact, we don't need a central database when multiple databases already exist with the aforementioned agencies. I never advocated all Muslims entering the US should register. I said no further action regarding Intel and surveillance methods was needed. Republican Governors do not want Syrian refugees in their states for State and national security. THAT, you might reasonably question!!!

Also Phil, why no comment on Ben Carson's "rabid dog" Muslim analogy or comparison of a Muslim database and/or religious identy cards with US historical Japanese internment? These are hot topics over here. The Nazi comparison is ludicrous IMHO. Anti-Muslim election rhetoric and reaction to the Euro refugee crisis as well as the Paris attacks is everywhere right now. So the media takes advantage for ratings. Same old routine.

My reading skills are not the issue here: I've explained perfectly clearly why it is in context. You've responded with a barrage of irrelevant whataboutery, plus a lot that shows that you simply don't get the point I'm making: whether there were Jews who were communist is not being argued; yet that some high-profile communists were Jews does not mean that labelling all Jews as enemies of the state is a rational response (yet that is what happened, presumably for reasons other than some Jews being Bolshevik). The same flaws in rationality are being shown by Donald Trump - I realize the "should there be a database of Muslims" question was sprung on him, but his response does show one very strong reason for him not to president (and that he later reafirmed his stupidity reinforces that reason).

As for what you said, "A Muslim database? Please, it already exists within the 20-something Intel databases on terror AND domestic spying!!! No need to register." ..is not the same as your later post - the only way that first one can be read is that you think what Trump is calling for is superfluous because it is already in existence, which is what I was querying somewhat incredulously. However, your penultimate post suggests you actually think that a) the various databases do not hold records on all Muslims, and b) that you don't think a central database to do that is needed.. so you disagree with Trump, without actually making that clear.

As for comments about Carson, or anyone else, they're not relevant here either. I don't know why you feel you have to bring in so many irrelevancies.

Phil, you're not an American voter and your responses show you know nothing of our system nor of relevent history regarding perceived Jewish roots of Bolshevism historically. As stated twice earlier Weimar was dealing with the issue BEFORE Hitler was even elected and most of Europe did the same things as ideology-race based labeling of Jews as enemies of the state. For the record most of the Communists that the SA fought in the streets of Germany in the '30s were Jewish funded. Jewish Communists also printed subversive materials distributed in German cities and many of them were also criminals. Must be nice to ignore these facts. I am also 100% right that Muslim surveillance and databases already exist with the FBI, CIA, DIA, NSA, and various PD Intel Divisions since at least 2011. I know this information from reputable sources and I come from a family of military, police, and Intel. Second, I never approved of the media hype over the question posed to Trump nor his spur of the moment remarks. Carson is relevent for his anti-muslim remarks which in historical context sound the same as any 1930s Antisemite from Germany, Britain, France, Russia or even America. Go back and read some accurate history books on Jewish Bolshevism and how that perceived (key word) notion impacted Western Europe. Also, might add that you evade on every single factual point on British Antisemitic actions and words, including those from Churchill. And stop knocking the US over its Presidents and policies. UK is a F-cking disaster and your own people don't like Cameron. You're nation is not even thought of of our best European friend anymore, Obama praising France. Remember Lafayette, Redcoat scumbag? We kicked your ass in the War of Independence, bailed you out of WW2 providing lend-lease and making all the important daylight raids over Germany that your pussy RAF couldn't make, and we cut you out of the Manhattan Project in '45. Your RN was nothing compared to the USN and its carrier supremacy. But you went along with the Gulf Wars too and all that bad decision making. Process all that you Brit flag-waving windbag. And you can say "we won WW2" all day but you won it poor and lost your colonies. The US robbed you of all German secret weapons tech and data and even demanded your tech of radar, jet engines, etc... as part of repayment for bailing you out. In Europe today Germany is calling the shots on austerity measures and the Syrian refugee crisis. Britain is just a puny terror target with a symbolic mess of a Royal Family. NFR

Oh yeah, when was the last time Britain was great? Under Thatcher and the Falklands fighting conscript Argies!!! That was in the 1980s!

^ you should at least credit Wiki which to most intelligent people translates as Weak Information since most pages are flagged for inaccuracies!

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

Rob, aka Observer, aka Also Relevant: You have provided a link to the Institute For Historical Review to bolster your views. The IHR is a notorious Holocaust- denying, Nazi-defending pseudo-academic organization. Since 2004, it has been unable to publish the rag you would have us link to or to hold any of its Holocaust-denying conferences. Read all about it from the highly-regarded Southern Poverty Law Center. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/institute-historical-review You have shown your true colors once again. As for your seething diatribe against the U.K., why don't you call them sub-human, a term favored by your forebears? Or better yet, British-Bolsheviks; after all, Das Kapital was written at The British Museum.

This site is supposed to be fun, I wish you could work out this back and forth with something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM4vvsY45kw

Remember, Peter: It's a wonderful life. Whenever a Nazi is outed, a bell rings.

Rob, what a load of irrelevant tosh. I'm going to take the whole "when was the last time Britain was great" as meaning "I know I've lost the argument, but I've got to do something to maintain my sense of superiority".. the pointless history lesson likewise. I guess it is possible to know a lot of history, yet to have learned absolutely nothing from that knowledge.

Remember, Phil: It's a wonderful life. Whenever a Nazi is outed, an angel gets his wings.